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Post by rydon7 on Aug 6, 2008 15:27:08 GMT -5
Wait, because I don't want to type up paragraphs of arguing I don't care?
Nay!
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Post by vidguysteve on Aug 6, 2008 15:27:50 GMT -5
Then what is your opinion, my good man?
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Post by Yoshimaster on Aug 6, 2008 15:32:03 GMT -5
Yes but vidguy, on the other hand seemed to belive it was WD against everyone else on the forum. I also see a major difference. Star wars is a story and also a movie. There is no time to detail specific troop movements when a story must be advanced. Also, when swarmed by droids in movie 2, jedi died, lots of jedi died. I belive it was about 80-180 out of 100-200 there but about 20 were left in the end. In the clone wars cartoon, it actually has the same problem we do.. Heros/Jedi are way overpowered. (Mace wipes out an army almost singlehandedly. Also heros can ofter fight and deal magor damage on their own on the other hand a direct quote from phantom menace "Two jedi cannot fight a war"
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Post by Makajawan on Aug 6, 2008 15:47:24 GMT -5
I guess I'll jump in. You see, I don't want to go to battle with an enemy hero, because I know it's just sending out troops to be slaughtered. Yoshimaster makes a good point- on Pikmin Wars everything is exciting because you see you troops and machines and plans in action, not just epic duels which, while awesome, aren't fun.
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Post by Merloo on Aug 6, 2008 15:59:48 GMT -5
Then find a writer that fits what you want. If you, YM, and WD all want that, just write battles for each other. Problem solved, everyone is happy.
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Post by Yoshimaster on Aug 6, 2008 16:11:10 GMT -5
Problem is, the people we go to war with will just scream UNFAIR when their heros are never mensioned. In pikmin wars we have supers but they get little mensioen and their duels are rare and 2-5 sentaces max. I think that should be the way it is here. Not hero pwns all.
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Post by Merloo on Aug 6, 2008 16:23:40 GMT -5
And if you like Pikmin Wars, then you should play that. I for one don't want Pikmin Wars with Mario. SMKW's has managed to remain a different and unique war game, by managing to mix creativity, tactics, and limits in a way that doesn't manage to encroach on anyone's fun in a major way.
Plus, that's just something people like me and vidguy will have to deal with. My heroes have to be mentioned anyways, as I don't really use troops, but if you want machines, I have something for you guys later on.
It's a trade-off. The attacker chooses the mod, and depending on who they get, they may or may not be as happy as they could be. No one will be 100% happy this way, but it's better than having even a minority, as I suppose you see it, at 50% happiness all the time. This way, you go to war, you get to see what you want.
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Post by Water Dumple on Aug 6, 2008 16:24:20 GMT -5
The way I see it, that has a time and place. However, it's been done so much, that a decent number of us are sick of it and would just like to go back to what we used to do. In a way, reading about what a hero did feels to me more like reading a story than a battle narrative.
Edit: Written after Yoshi's last post.
Edit edit: Oh, and nobody besides Merloo commented on the idea of being able to select something that you'd like a moderator to focus on when talking about you in a battle.
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Post by Makajawan on Aug 6, 2008 16:31:30 GMT -5
Directed at edit edit: I like it. It pretty much solves the problem here and now.
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Post by Merloo on Aug 6, 2008 16:36:20 GMT -5
So there we go. We have a simple solution, everyone wins, or wins more than they would with losing things.
Solution: You have a choice in what mods focus on. You make said choice, and mods try to fit it in better. It makes things a little harder on writers, but I have faith that it can be done. As WD came up with it, I'd like it if he tests it out. Next battle, WD tries this, and we can see what happens.
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Post by Water Dumple on Aug 6, 2008 16:39:06 GMT -5
We'll see if I have the time. And if this is another one of those stupid 3 on 3s, I'm not doing it. Additionally, you shouldn't expect much quality writing, as I'm generally only good at suspense and tragedy rather than random brawls.
Edit: I also find it a little bit hypocritical that just a little while ago my argument was being attacked because I'm not playing in this version any more, yet now you tell me to go write a battle.
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Post by Merloo on Aug 6, 2008 16:46:21 GMT -5
The one who comes up with the idea should test it, so long as the idea has enough support at the time for it to actually work. As well, you are the one who wants this idea the most, I'd feel, and it's best for the person that wants something to try it. They will be able to spot the flaws the best, if there are any. If people had liked my Artifact idea, I'd have done it. Not only would I want it the most, but I'd have the best experience, being the one that deals with Artifacts the most. Finally, you are the one that would notice the difference the most.
That, or it's a devious trick by me to suck you back in. You decide, next time on... SMKW!
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Post by Water Dumple on Aug 6, 2008 16:47:51 GMT -5
Fine. But I've had constant battles to write on Pikmin Wars, so there's a chance it'll be delayed or I won't have the time at all. And I'm not coming back to SMKW for a while, just The Wars.
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Post by Merloo on Aug 6, 2008 16:55:15 GMT -5
We shall see. We shall see...
Devious schemes of world domination aside, I'll see if I can find a pair of people willing to do battle with this new idea, and leave out allies. I may do it, although my zany group might be a bit much for you.
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Post by Makajawan on Aug 6, 2008 17:22:49 GMT -5
I'd do it, and obviously, the defender would have no choice. Unfortunately, I want my quest finished before I go to war with Yoshimaster. He needs his army approved first anyway.
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