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Post by meowzer on Sept 3, 2008 15:14:23 GMT -5
He keeps repeating himself because you aren't getting what he's saying.
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Post by Merloo on Sept 3, 2008 15:15:34 GMT -5
Did you completely and utterly ignore the calm and peaceful discussion Makuta and I had? Did everyone who posted in this topic afterwards ignore it? No yelling, no insults, just a calm and relatively reasonable discussion, I feel.
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Post by Cannibal Joe on Sept 3, 2008 15:28:13 GMT -5
I've been asking for a compromise this whole time, I never once asked you to get rid of the stuff, I just wanted them toned down, like maybe put a limit on it, but now I've got 2 mods on my side and demands have been made
so like it or not, you don't get the final word here, and if you had listened to me in the start, it would have been a compromise, I wasn't saying anything about getting rid of the minor powers, but I want you to put a realistic limit on what they are protected from, and, maybe even post an example of what a passive ability would be (and I don't mean the normal passive ability, something that is weaker than usual,) abuility would be, and also, get rid of the "replicate the stars thing", 'cuz that's only gonna lead to future problems. That's it, it would have been less if you had listened to me from the start.
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Post by Merloo on Sept 3, 2008 15:32:54 GMT -5
Passive Abilities are merely abilities that don't need to be activated for them to work. Something like being able to breath underwater, while not a Passive Ability I have, is an example. Or being protected from fire.
The effect disabled all Active Abilities, leaving Passive ones safe. Which seems perfectly fair to me, and makes it a lot easier to figure out what is going on, compared to having some Artifacts completely disabled, some with Active, some with Passive, some with both, as an 80-Day project disabling all of them would be overpowered.
On an unrelated note, looks like my email did the trick. An old member is back.
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Post by meowzer on Sept 3, 2008 15:32:55 GMT -5
He was listening to you.
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Post by vidguysteve on Sept 3, 2008 15:35:58 GMT -5
Merloo, care to explain why Itaav has the same exact IP address as you?
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Post by Merloo on Sept 3, 2008 15:37:48 GMT -5
Aww, I tried. I thought it'd stem the barrage that the games are dying. Although I really should do something about getting more members.
I have a feeling more yelling will come soon.
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Post by vidguysteve on Sept 3, 2008 15:38:39 GMT -5
Or, we could actually try to get new members instead of making fake new ones.
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Post by Merloo on Sept 3, 2008 15:40:21 GMT -5
I wasn't going to do anything other than leave the account logged in. It was also to see if anyone would recognize the name. Although all the old members left.
And I am trying. Although then again though the person I was talking to was going to join to argue for me, and maybe play on the side, so I don't think it was what you wanted. I also didn't want that, but for very different reasons.
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Post by Cannibal Joe on Sept 3, 2008 15:42:25 GMT -5
back on topic:
well, still I think that a compromise (and yes I've been trying to do this from the start, you were just being stubborn) would be, putting a timer on it, so that you still have to keep your shamans safe, but I won't compromise on getting rid of the replication of crystal stars, or putting a realistic limit on this, for example, this will protect you from up to 150 days worth of artifact disabler.
As for the crystal star replication, similar arguements will break out, armies will attack each other with crystal star power, lowering the worth of both the crystal stars and also troops.
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Post by vidguysteve on Sept 3, 2008 15:44:21 GMT -5
I wasn't going to do anything other than leave the account logged in. It was also to see if anyone would recognize the name. Although all the old members left. And I am trying. Although then again though the person I was talking to was going to join to argue for me, and maybe play on the side, so I don't think it was what you wanted. I also didn't want that, but for very different reasons. I don't care if people disagree with me; I'm not some kinda totalitarian dictator. If you can get him to come back, please do.
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Post by Merloo on Sept 3, 2008 15:48:19 GMT -5
They could then just make other Artifacts. Which is why I see the argument against extra Crystal Stars as being silly, as all other aspects of this way, minus heroes, can be replicated, even Uber Artifacts, so why not regular ones?
I don't think you understand the point of what I'm trying to say. One 25-Day project to give my character a one-shot ability would be just as powerful as a Crystal Star, except it would not be subject to the Artifact Disabler. I could easily update now, drain all the Artifacts of power, leaving them as husks, and be more powerful than I currently am, as then they aren't even subject to the Artifact Absorber.
The point isn't that I can use rules as loopholes, the point is that you're getting upset about the Artifacts because their Artifacts, nothing else, as you don't even know their powers, or what they can do.
Really, vidguy? That's weird, if you don't mind arguing, then why do you keep trying to not let me argue my case?
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Post by vidguysteve on Sept 3, 2008 15:52:31 GMT -5
I don't mind people disagreeing with me. Discussions are fine as long as the person makes the the effort to agree to a compromise.
And I never stopped you from arguing any more than you did to me.
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Post by Merloo on Sept 3, 2008 15:54:02 GMT -5
It feels that when I'm arguing with you, I teeter on the brink of destruction. I shouldn't have to feel that way.
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Post by vidguysteve on Sept 3, 2008 15:58:09 GMT -5
Well, can't say why.
*hides knife behind back*
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