Post by Water Dumple on Feb 9, 2008 11:22:26 GMT -5
You know, I actually had some good ideas for a Breadbug game a while back. Guess I'll post 'em. The title would be...
Breadbug
What an original name! Anyhow, basically, you...are a Breadbug. For those who don't know, they look like this.
Giant Breadbugs look like this.
I haven't figured out a complete story yet, but for the most part, you just be a Breadbug. It would be pretty slow-paced, as Breadbugs are (Stopping for a moment every time they come out of their holes, moving slowly, etc). Health would be determined by a number that would decrease when you took damage--Your max would be a paltry 30 at the start, but you'd get health expansions. You'd scuttle around and look for things to take to your hole. For defense, you could give headbutts and kicks, and once you upgraded enough you'd be able to get small weapons, like a mini cannon that would attach to your back, aim, and fire. You'd see creatures from the series wandering around, doing their thing, and so on...Most wouldn't attack you, but if you can kill one, it'll pay a lot when you drag the body to your hole. Breadbugs are mostly scavengers, though, so you would come by after creatures fight each other to get the goods. For instance, you could get some half-eaten Sheargrubs a Bulborb attacked.
Pikmin would also be enemies--They'd try to take your things in tug-of-war and such. There would be timed button-presses for tug-of-war, but a single headbutt kills a Pikmin and they can't hurt you unless there are loads of 'em or they jump down on you. Upon getting upgrades, you could switch what kind of Breadbug you are. Vanilla, Wheat, Rye, etc. They'd have their own abilities like high HP, high speed, high attack power, high dragging strength, and so on. As Breadbugs aren't the most mobile of creatures, you would have to be creative to solve puzzles, setting up toys and things in the Glutton's Kitchen to make a contraption to break down a wall or whatever. You would also dig your tunnels and den in sidescroller fashion, where you could switch your kind of Breadbug, cash in creatures and treasures for Butter (The Breadbug currency), go to sleep, and a few other things.
I think the story would have something to do with the Pikmin making a massive army and sweeping through, but I'm not sure. There would definitely be bosses that would test your skill, however. Other Breadbugs would help you, and you could have up to four following you at a time to get the biggest treasures and solve the hardest puzzles. The areas in the game would be anything from Pikmin 2, as well as the places in Pikmin that didn't appear in the sequel. Lots of new areas, though!
So, overall, it'd be a slow-paced action-puzzle game. I may add more later...thoughts?
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Gameplay Ideas
Controls
Control stick: Move. Duh!
A: Bite. This is how you grab ahold of treasures and stuff. If it's small, you can flip it onto your back and carry it with you. You only have to press A, not hold it, of course. You can use it to pull up plants and things. A couple items, such as machine pieces and Butter cubes, go into a small loot sack where you can pull them out.
B: Headbutt/Kick. At a close range, you can quickly headbutt stuff or kick it. If you have a short-ranged mini weapon, this will use it. For example, if you have teeth fittings, you'd bite.
-: Jump or Action. Breadbugs can make a very small jump to do various things, or clear very small distances. If you're near something else, this will do an action--Like communicating with another Breadbug, for instance.
+: Pause. This brings up a small menu of stuff you have, and things you can use.
1: Dig/Special ability: Each Breadbug type has a small special ability. This uses it. If you tap it twice, you'll start to dig (Assuming you can).
2: First-person view. Lets you aim with a ranged mini weapon.
C: Tap it to adjust the camera's distance, or hold it and flick the Wii Remote to the sides to move the direction it points. Ordinarily, it just follows you.
Z: Target something. This can get better aim for a mini weapon, allow you to dodge enemies easier, and that kind of thing. Flicking the Wii Remote while targeting something will make you do a small hop to the sides or backwards to help avoid attacks.
D-Pad: Command your other Breadbugs, if you have some following you. One will be assigned to each direction on the D-Pad. Once you select one, you can move a cursor around nearby and press A to make them grab onto something, B to make them attack it, - to make them to a special action or jump, or 1 to disband the Breadbug.
Stores
In Breadbug City (See below) there are several stores where you can spend your Butter cubes and Golden Flowers. Here're some of the things you can buy.
Hard Helmet: 120 Butter
This goofy helmet boosts your attack power with headbutts.
Spike Hat: 500 Butter
Think of the Hard Helmet, but with a spike. Lots of extra attack power, including some defense piercing!
Teeth Fittings: 350 Butter
These sharp fittings allow you to bite as an ordinary attack. It's better on large creatures, but worse on small ones like Pikmin.
Sharpened Teeth Fittings: 600 Butter
A much more powerful version of the Teeth Fittings--It pierces a lot of defense, and allows you to sink your teeth into the toughest plants to pull them up.
Mini Cannon: 1,500 Butter
A small cannon that attaches to your back. It fires at a decent rate, shooting the kind of projectiles you buy for it. You can switch them on the pause screen.
Rocks: 100 Butter
The most basic ammo for the Mini Cannon. They don't fly straight and don't do a whole lot of damage.
Darts: 400 Butter
These are much better than Rocks. They fly straight for as long as you want them to, and stick into enemies.
Mini Bomb Rocks: 800 Butter
An even better ammo, the Mini Bomb Rocks will explode on enemies to kill more Pikmin and such. They can't destroy walls like ordinary Bomb Rocks will, though...
BorbBorbs: 1,500 Butter
One of the best things you can put in your Mini Cannon. BorbBorbs are small balls colored like Bulborbs (Red with white spots, orange with black spots, etc). They are unpredictable in speed and damage, but explode like Mini Bomb Rocks and are quite powerful. With a bit of prowess, you could take on a grown Bulborb alone with these.
...Along with much more.
Main mode
You start out in Breadbug City, a sort of center of life for them. In every area, one of your tunnels may connect to it for easy access. Here, you can pay other Breadbugs to help you for a while, buy things with Butter, and that kind of thing. It looks like one of the underground cave levels, with dirt walls and floors, and plants around the place. Your stamina bar does not decrease in here--More on that later. Just run around, meet some Breadbugs, and take a look at things. There's not much to do right now, as you only start with ten Butter cubes. There are a few Sheargrubs in the back of Breadbug City, however, so you could get a couple of extra cubes if you want. Once you're done exploring, go to your tunnel and from there go to your den. In the den, you have a Butter Exchanger, which cashes in your creatures and treasure for Butter, a little nest for going to sleep which refills your stamina, a small room for storing your spoils, and a couple other things later. Take the exit and go outside, to your first area!
Grove of Life
This is basically the Awakening Wood from Pikmin 2...not a great amount has changed. You start in the very back, where the Radiation Canopy was in the first game and where the Decorative Goo was in the second. The small lake is still there, preventing any Pikmin save Blues from raiding your hole--Yes, Pikmin can loot your hole. You'll immediately notice a little circle behind your health number--That's your stamina meter. It will very slowly deplete the longer you're awake, and if it's empty, your speed, strength, attack power and defense will be lowered. However, it goes down quite slowly and there are expansions you can buy in Breadbug City. You can also eat some of your Butter for a quick boost, if you just need to get that treasure back home before going to sleep. Digging tunnels takes a while, so you'll skip to the end of the digging but take a stamina drop and time will pass. More creatures are out at night, but fewer Pikmin. You can decide what time works better for you. At the moment, you're a Wheat Breadbug which has extra stamina.
Anyhow, move into the lake. There are three Wogpoles here. In this game, they're very scared and will swim up, slap you with their tails, and then bolt away. Wait for them to come up close, and then headbutt 'em down. Wogpoles only have ten health, so about four headbutts will send 'em to the graveyard. Pick them up and take them to your hole. Head over to the other side of the lake. The little pool of water to the left has been drained, but there's a wall there in its stead, so jump down the ledge. You'll now have two ways to go. The left path is blocked by a paper bag, so you'll have to leave that for now. You can head straight forward to the berry plants in Pikmin 2, or off to the right where a Creeping Chrysanthemum lies. A few #1 Pellet Posies are nestled in the corner, so kick 'em down and stuff 'em in your loot sack. Going forward, there's a Cloaking Burrow-Nit, but he won't hurt you unless you attack him. Just leave him be and go to the berry plants, which forty Red Pikmin are currently beating the berries off. When they see you, they'll leap off the top and try to land on you, which as you know hurts Breadbugs. Keep an overhead view on and move to the side to avoid them--After that they'll just swarm you, but if you repeatedly headbutt you'll kill them all before they can do much. Pikmin don't leave corpses to take, but they're usually found around Pellet Posies or other creatures, so you can take advantage of that. If you lure them near the Cloaking Burrow-Nit, he'll even help you fight them.
Chances are, some of the berries are still on the ground, and those are highly valued among creatures...at Breadbug City, you can exchange them for Golden Flowers, a universal currency among creatures that goes beyond Butter. You can also make stamina potions from these Spicy berries, so grab every one on the ground. Next to the stone wall here are some plants, and a couple of wood pieces cut down by the Pikmin. You can put these pieces in your Loot Sack--Go back to where the ledge was, and you can build a ramp up to the lake! You'll have to use this ramp to get to your hole until you can break down that wall. Leave your stuff inside of your den, and go to the path on the right. A Creeping Chrysanthemum is there, but fortunately it only eats small creatures so it'll leave you alone. Now you'll come into the shady place. To the right is a dead end, and to the left is...another wall. Nonetheless, off to the right is a great place to build a Link Tunnel. LTs directly connect to your main den. You can drop off things inside of them which will be transported to your main den--You can't sleep in them or go to Breadbug City, however, as they're just a link to your main den. You can have four Link Tunnels in every area--You can't build a fifth or the ceiling underground will collapse. To counter this, however, you can fill in old tunnels if you don't want them anymore. Get digging, and once you're done you'll have an easy drop-off point! That takes a chunk out of your day, so you might want to go to Breadbug City or go to sleep, and then come back at night.
Um, this game is really nonlinear, so a "Walkthrough" is pretty useless. Instead, I'll give you some bosses and stuff. Here's one you find earlier on in the game.
Red Onion
You'll find this in the middle of a field in the Maple Meadows. There are a couple of Pikmin near it. They will of course attack you, but once you're done killing them the Onion will become angry and lift in the air! It has a few attacks which it will use systematically. The first is where it uses its legs to pick you up and then drop you down at a large hight for medium damage. Best way to avoid it is to run near a tree where it's cramped and it can't get at you. Next up is a simple ramming attack. It zooms low over the ground and attempts to knock you over. The last is by far the most dangerous. It flies above you and uses its tractor beam to suck you up. And you know how much damage that does to Breadbugs in both Pikmin games! Use a well-timed side jump to avoid it.
The Onion will start by making several ramming runs through the area. Then it'll start hovering around and trying to pick you up with its legs. However, after about thirty seconds a Careening Dirigibug will fly into the area to help you. It'll drop a slow-detonation bomb rock onto the ground, which takes three times as long to blow up as the others. Immediately flip this onto your back. When the Onion tries to suck you up, it will instead suck up the bomb-rock which will blast it and plaster it on the ground. After this is will use a new attack. It'll fly high in the air and start dropping Red Pikmin on you. Keep the camera in an overhead view, dodge them, and immediately kill them when they land. Paste it with another bomb rock and it'll start smoking. It once again adds another attack: The Onion lands on the ground and starts popping out Pikmin like crazy, as if it got a pearl from a Pearly Clamclamp. It's almost impossible to keep up and it'll drop a total of one-hundred fifty Pikmin, but if you start chewing on its legs you can get it to stop earlier. The final blast of the bomb rock will send the Onion packing, and it'll drop a loaf of bread. Bread loaves upgrade you and allow you to turn into new kinds of Breadbugs. This one allows you to turn into the Vanilla Breadbug, which has a special mimicking ability!
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More to come...
Breadbug
What an original name! Anyhow, basically, you...are a Breadbug. For those who don't know, they look like this.
Giant Breadbugs look like this.
I haven't figured out a complete story yet, but for the most part, you just be a Breadbug. It would be pretty slow-paced, as Breadbugs are (Stopping for a moment every time they come out of their holes, moving slowly, etc). Health would be determined by a number that would decrease when you took damage--Your max would be a paltry 30 at the start, but you'd get health expansions. You'd scuttle around and look for things to take to your hole. For defense, you could give headbutts and kicks, and once you upgraded enough you'd be able to get small weapons, like a mini cannon that would attach to your back, aim, and fire. You'd see creatures from the series wandering around, doing their thing, and so on...Most wouldn't attack you, but if you can kill one, it'll pay a lot when you drag the body to your hole. Breadbugs are mostly scavengers, though, so you would come by after creatures fight each other to get the goods. For instance, you could get some half-eaten Sheargrubs a Bulborb attacked.
Pikmin would also be enemies--They'd try to take your things in tug-of-war and such. There would be timed button-presses for tug-of-war, but a single headbutt kills a Pikmin and they can't hurt you unless there are loads of 'em or they jump down on you. Upon getting upgrades, you could switch what kind of Breadbug you are. Vanilla, Wheat, Rye, etc. They'd have their own abilities like high HP, high speed, high attack power, high dragging strength, and so on. As Breadbugs aren't the most mobile of creatures, you would have to be creative to solve puzzles, setting up toys and things in the Glutton's Kitchen to make a contraption to break down a wall or whatever. You would also dig your tunnels and den in sidescroller fashion, where you could switch your kind of Breadbug, cash in creatures and treasures for Butter (The Breadbug currency), go to sleep, and a few other things.
I think the story would have something to do with the Pikmin making a massive army and sweeping through, but I'm not sure. There would definitely be bosses that would test your skill, however. Other Breadbugs would help you, and you could have up to four following you at a time to get the biggest treasures and solve the hardest puzzles. The areas in the game would be anything from Pikmin 2, as well as the places in Pikmin that didn't appear in the sequel. Lots of new areas, though!
So, overall, it'd be a slow-paced action-puzzle game. I may add more later...thoughts?
====================
Gameplay Ideas
Controls
Control stick: Move. Duh!
A: Bite. This is how you grab ahold of treasures and stuff. If it's small, you can flip it onto your back and carry it with you. You only have to press A, not hold it, of course. You can use it to pull up plants and things. A couple items, such as machine pieces and Butter cubes, go into a small loot sack where you can pull them out.
B: Headbutt/Kick. At a close range, you can quickly headbutt stuff or kick it. If you have a short-ranged mini weapon, this will use it. For example, if you have teeth fittings, you'd bite.
-: Jump or Action. Breadbugs can make a very small jump to do various things, or clear very small distances. If you're near something else, this will do an action--Like communicating with another Breadbug, for instance.
+: Pause. This brings up a small menu of stuff you have, and things you can use.
1: Dig/Special ability: Each Breadbug type has a small special ability. This uses it. If you tap it twice, you'll start to dig (Assuming you can).
2: First-person view. Lets you aim with a ranged mini weapon.
C: Tap it to adjust the camera's distance, or hold it and flick the Wii Remote to the sides to move the direction it points. Ordinarily, it just follows you.
Z: Target something. This can get better aim for a mini weapon, allow you to dodge enemies easier, and that kind of thing. Flicking the Wii Remote while targeting something will make you do a small hop to the sides or backwards to help avoid attacks.
D-Pad: Command your other Breadbugs, if you have some following you. One will be assigned to each direction on the D-Pad. Once you select one, you can move a cursor around nearby and press A to make them grab onto something, B to make them attack it, - to make them to a special action or jump, or 1 to disband the Breadbug.
Stores
In Breadbug City (See below) there are several stores where you can spend your Butter cubes and Golden Flowers. Here're some of the things you can buy.
Hard Helmet: 120 Butter
This goofy helmet boosts your attack power with headbutts.
Spike Hat: 500 Butter
Think of the Hard Helmet, but with a spike. Lots of extra attack power, including some defense piercing!
Teeth Fittings: 350 Butter
These sharp fittings allow you to bite as an ordinary attack. It's better on large creatures, but worse on small ones like Pikmin.
Sharpened Teeth Fittings: 600 Butter
A much more powerful version of the Teeth Fittings--It pierces a lot of defense, and allows you to sink your teeth into the toughest plants to pull them up.
Mini Cannon: 1,500 Butter
A small cannon that attaches to your back. It fires at a decent rate, shooting the kind of projectiles you buy for it. You can switch them on the pause screen.
Rocks: 100 Butter
The most basic ammo for the Mini Cannon. They don't fly straight and don't do a whole lot of damage.
Darts: 400 Butter
These are much better than Rocks. They fly straight for as long as you want them to, and stick into enemies.
Mini Bomb Rocks: 800 Butter
An even better ammo, the Mini Bomb Rocks will explode on enemies to kill more Pikmin and such. They can't destroy walls like ordinary Bomb Rocks will, though...
BorbBorbs: 1,500 Butter
One of the best things you can put in your Mini Cannon. BorbBorbs are small balls colored like Bulborbs (Red with white spots, orange with black spots, etc). They are unpredictable in speed and damage, but explode like Mini Bomb Rocks and are quite powerful. With a bit of prowess, you could take on a grown Bulborb alone with these.
...Along with much more.
Main mode
You start out in Breadbug City, a sort of center of life for them. In every area, one of your tunnels may connect to it for easy access. Here, you can pay other Breadbugs to help you for a while, buy things with Butter, and that kind of thing. It looks like one of the underground cave levels, with dirt walls and floors, and plants around the place. Your stamina bar does not decrease in here--More on that later. Just run around, meet some Breadbugs, and take a look at things. There's not much to do right now, as you only start with ten Butter cubes. There are a few Sheargrubs in the back of Breadbug City, however, so you could get a couple of extra cubes if you want. Once you're done exploring, go to your tunnel and from there go to your den. In the den, you have a Butter Exchanger, which cashes in your creatures and treasure for Butter, a little nest for going to sleep which refills your stamina, a small room for storing your spoils, and a couple other things later. Take the exit and go outside, to your first area!
Grove of Life
This is basically the Awakening Wood from Pikmin 2...not a great amount has changed. You start in the very back, where the Radiation Canopy was in the first game and where the Decorative Goo was in the second. The small lake is still there, preventing any Pikmin save Blues from raiding your hole--Yes, Pikmin can loot your hole. You'll immediately notice a little circle behind your health number--That's your stamina meter. It will very slowly deplete the longer you're awake, and if it's empty, your speed, strength, attack power and defense will be lowered. However, it goes down quite slowly and there are expansions you can buy in Breadbug City. You can also eat some of your Butter for a quick boost, if you just need to get that treasure back home before going to sleep. Digging tunnels takes a while, so you'll skip to the end of the digging but take a stamina drop and time will pass. More creatures are out at night, but fewer Pikmin. You can decide what time works better for you. At the moment, you're a Wheat Breadbug which has extra stamina.
Anyhow, move into the lake. There are three Wogpoles here. In this game, they're very scared and will swim up, slap you with their tails, and then bolt away. Wait for them to come up close, and then headbutt 'em down. Wogpoles only have ten health, so about four headbutts will send 'em to the graveyard. Pick them up and take them to your hole. Head over to the other side of the lake. The little pool of water to the left has been drained, but there's a wall there in its stead, so jump down the ledge. You'll now have two ways to go. The left path is blocked by a paper bag, so you'll have to leave that for now. You can head straight forward to the berry plants in Pikmin 2, or off to the right where a Creeping Chrysanthemum lies. A few #1 Pellet Posies are nestled in the corner, so kick 'em down and stuff 'em in your loot sack. Going forward, there's a Cloaking Burrow-Nit, but he won't hurt you unless you attack him. Just leave him be and go to the berry plants, which forty Red Pikmin are currently beating the berries off. When they see you, they'll leap off the top and try to land on you, which as you know hurts Breadbugs. Keep an overhead view on and move to the side to avoid them--After that they'll just swarm you, but if you repeatedly headbutt you'll kill them all before they can do much. Pikmin don't leave corpses to take, but they're usually found around Pellet Posies or other creatures, so you can take advantage of that. If you lure them near the Cloaking Burrow-Nit, he'll even help you fight them.
Chances are, some of the berries are still on the ground, and those are highly valued among creatures...at Breadbug City, you can exchange them for Golden Flowers, a universal currency among creatures that goes beyond Butter. You can also make stamina potions from these Spicy berries, so grab every one on the ground. Next to the stone wall here are some plants, and a couple of wood pieces cut down by the Pikmin. You can put these pieces in your Loot Sack--Go back to where the ledge was, and you can build a ramp up to the lake! You'll have to use this ramp to get to your hole until you can break down that wall. Leave your stuff inside of your den, and go to the path on the right. A Creeping Chrysanthemum is there, but fortunately it only eats small creatures so it'll leave you alone. Now you'll come into the shady place. To the right is a dead end, and to the left is...another wall. Nonetheless, off to the right is a great place to build a Link Tunnel. LTs directly connect to your main den. You can drop off things inside of them which will be transported to your main den--You can't sleep in them or go to Breadbug City, however, as they're just a link to your main den. You can have four Link Tunnels in every area--You can't build a fifth or the ceiling underground will collapse. To counter this, however, you can fill in old tunnels if you don't want them anymore. Get digging, and once you're done you'll have an easy drop-off point! That takes a chunk out of your day, so you might want to go to Breadbug City or go to sleep, and then come back at night.
Um, this game is really nonlinear, so a "Walkthrough" is pretty useless. Instead, I'll give you some bosses and stuff. Here's one you find earlier on in the game.
Red Onion
You'll find this in the middle of a field in the Maple Meadows. There are a couple of Pikmin near it. They will of course attack you, but once you're done killing them the Onion will become angry and lift in the air! It has a few attacks which it will use systematically. The first is where it uses its legs to pick you up and then drop you down at a large hight for medium damage. Best way to avoid it is to run near a tree where it's cramped and it can't get at you. Next up is a simple ramming attack. It zooms low over the ground and attempts to knock you over. The last is by far the most dangerous. It flies above you and uses its tractor beam to suck you up. And you know how much damage that does to Breadbugs in both Pikmin games! Use a well-timed side jump to avoid it.
The Onion will start by making several ramming runs through the area. Then it'll start hovering around and trying to pick you up with its legs. However, after about thirty seconds a Careening Dirigibug will fly into the area to help you. It'll drop a slow-detonation bomb rock onto the ground, which takes three times as long to blow up as the others. Immediately flip this onto your back. When the Onion tries to suck you up, it will instead suck up the bomb-rock which will blast it and plaster it on the ground. After this is will use a new attack. It'll fly high in the air and start dropping Red Pikmin on you. Keep the camera in an overhead view, dodge them, and immediately kill them when they land. Paste it with another bomb rock and it'll start smoking. It once again adds another attack: The Onion lands on the ground and starts popping out Pikmin like crazy, as if it got a pearl from a Pearly Clamclamp. It's almost impossible to keep up and it'll drop a total of one-hundred fifty Pikmin, but if you start chewing on its legs you can get it to stop earlier. The final blast of the bomb rock will send the Onion packing, and it'll drop a loaf of bread. Bread loaves upgrade you and allow you to turn into new kinds of Breadbugs. This one allows you to turn into the Vanilla Breadbug, which has a special mimicking ability!
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More to come...