Cannibal Joe
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Post by Cannibal Joe on Sept 1, 2008 20:58:04 GMT -5
Merlar pondered it over. Dear Grodus, I shall make copies for you. Such a feat originally would seem impossible, but due to the nature of the Chrono Pure Heart, and the powers derived from a certain thing, I can make copies, essentially identical to what we both want. kinda contradicting yourself, huh? And I wouldn't have a problem with the one shot arguement, except, it's 3 one shot attacks, for each person, that makes 15, and you've made it so that they can't be nullified like everyone else's artifacts
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Merloo
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Post by Merloo on Sept 1, 2008 22:30:42 GMT -5
The Artifact's active power has indeed been nullified. What the Artifact normally does, it can't do. It just happens to have other functions, to make it useful, even if it's negated. For ease in your comprehension, that's the one-shot attack that's been lost. Also, if your primary strength was technology, surely you'd make projects so that your technology isn't just hacked. Same case.
And the concern was that the Crystal Stars needed to have similar powers, so I can craft the essence of the gods the Crystal Stars are based on into more crystalline vessels.
And how am I contradicting myself? I'm not going to have more than one.
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Post by vidguysteve on Sept 2, 2008 14:33:42 GMT -5
And I'm going to see to it that there aren't more than one set of Crystal Stars.
And Merloo, I think I figured out what the big issue with you is: You want to win. Because of that, you try to do everything in your power to try to patch up every possible weakness, to the point where somethings simply become unfair to other people and they get angry. It's fine to try to defend yourself with certain projects, but when you get to the point where no one can steal something from you that isn't a Legendary Weapon, that's not fair.
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Mr.Makutawsome
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Post by Mr.Makutawsome on Sept 2, 2008 14:45:17 GMT -5
Or everyone builds those long range base attacking uber weapons and fire them all at Merloo.
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Cannibal Joe
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Post by Cannibal Joe on Sept 2, 2008 14:59:42 GMT -5
your contradicting yourself because you said that you couldn't make copies, but then I quoted you saying that you could.
The definition of fair as applied to SMKW: when everyone has an equal chance at winning
All these schemes are only exploiting loopholes and are completely unfair to the rest of us, (also, someone might want to move this to the GodMod claims, 'cuz I don't feel like restarting this arguement)
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Merloo
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Post by Merloo on Sept 2, 2008 15:17:15 GMT -5
So any and all anti-hacking device must be dropped as well, I suppose. And we need to go back and edit the past wars, because Cackletta and Tubba are completely breaking the self-same idea I'm using.
I am doing what everyone else has done in the past, or even currently are doing in these wars. The only time anyone has a problem with these so called 'unfair' projects is whenever I try and use them.
And I said I couldn't have multiples of the Crystal Stars. I never said anything against anyone else. Star Rod example is a perfect proof of this. Masstar and Grodus each had one, for example.
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Post by vidguysteve on Sept 2, 2008 15:21:32 GMT -5
If you can't have multiples of the Crystal Stars, then why do you keep offering to make them for Grodus?
And the difference was that there was only one Star Rod per Army in Deluxe; the second someone made a copy, God Mod would be called.
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Merloo
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Post by Merloo on Sept 2, 2008 15:24:25 GMT -5
I think what I mean is not being understood.
Merlar can make copies of the Crystal Stars, but she is not able to own multiples of them, which is what I've meant. She can make them, but she'd have to give them away. Or, alternatively, she could give armies the materials to make them, as all they are is the essence of gods crafted into crystals, but they couldn't make more than one.
It would be the same case as with the Star Rods, just not Star Rods.
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Post by Cannibal Joe on Sept 2, 2008 15:37:39 GMT -5
And I suppose that if they use the copies on you the copies stop working?
whether or not I'm right about that,it still comes down to fairness, anti-hacking machines can be blown up, but we can't beat you without disabling your stars, and we pretty much can't stop your star power without destroying them/you, we can't do that without beating you in battle........ see where this goes?
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Merloo
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Post by Merloo on Sept 2, 2008 15:40:21 GMT -5
Except, you can disable the stars. They still have power, but you can't disable, say, the sentience that is TEC, which helps prevent hacking, or any non-physical form of anti-hacking.
And I'm actually somewhat honorable to my allies. And I believe that we've had it in the past where people have done that before, so it's not a first.
People on this site are paranoid as all else.
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Post by vidguysteve on Sept 2, 2008 15:43:13 GMT -5
Well, half of the game is politics, and it doesn't speak well for someone when they are allied with the most common source of arguments in the game.
And the answer to TEC and anti-hacking things is to smash it, or build a more powerful defense against it.
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Merloo
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Post by Merloo on Sept 2, 2008 15:46:39 GMT -5
And if someone like Lash get's anti-hacking?
I am a source of arguments only because of one ridiculous situation which ballooned out of control due to hot tempers and lack of understanding, and have since then been under more scrutiny than anyone else, despite the fact that everything else past then has been fine, even if they are based off of old characters.
To quote a famous villain, I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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Post by vidguysteve on Sept 2, 2008 15:48:14 GMT -5
Time to use this again. 10. A previously non-involved member makes a statement on the subject, which is when you try to play the innocent victim, further aggravating the others. 11. You try to keep the appearance of a patient person who has done nothing wrong and it is the others who are to blame.
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Merloo
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Post by Merloo on Sept 2, 2008 15:50:40 GMT -5
You do know that if you add in enough variables, you can make anything possible. It's like making a prediction that at some time during the month of September, you will meet someone important to you.
This could mean a number of things. For one, sometime during the month of September means that 1/12 of any year, it could happen. Someone important to you could mean any number of things. It could be an enemy, a friend, any number of things. The way you have it set up is entirely similar.
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Cannibal Joe
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Post by Cannibal Joe on Sept 2, 2008 15:54:07 GMT -5
but his arguements are [glow=red,2,300]much[/glow] more specific than that, in fact, they can't really be misinterpreted that much
12. Arguments and tempers flare, all the while you continue to criticize others for their words
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